tlor180
The character to character interactions in Elder Empire are leagues ahead of his other books,(although tbf cradle has a very different focus). I hope the relative obscureness compared to cradle doesn't dissaude will from writing more character focused stories.
Will Wight
Not to bring down the mood, but it kind of has dissuaded me.
IMHO, Elder Empire has two strengths:
1.) The world feels cohesive. It has history and culture and a postal system, different characters have different opinions on people and events that everyone is aware of, there’s shared mythology, etc.
2.) The major characters are a lot more fleshed out.
I believe I can bring some of that over to Cradle, especially having refreshed myself on it by skipping over to OKAK, but back when I started writing EE I thought this was the direction I was going to take my writing.
If you’ll pardon the comparison, let’s say Traveler’s Gate was halfway between a Japanese light novel and a traditional Western fantasy novel. Then Elder Empire would be a step more towards traditional novels and Cradle is a step towards light novels.
Well, one of those did 10-20x better than the other.
So I’m a lot more inclined to keep leaning toward the light novel side, which means not diving deeper into world and character development.
Having said all that, there’s still room to improve my character writing even without changing the formula of Cradle at all, it just comes down to skill. I’m working on it!
acog
It's a tough question to answer since you're trying to guess why someone didn't buy it, and people don't leave feedback for books they decided to skip. Still, I think I'm not alone. I had a small company for years and one lesson I learned in sales was that "analysis paralysis" is real. If the customer is the least bit confused, the easiest thing to do is not make the sale. Look at how many posts there are in this subreddit asking about the proper reading order for the trilogies. Might be a sign.
Will Wight
I actually completely agree with what you’re saying.
My experience is that readers need to think they know what they’re getting from a story in order to pick it up.
Then you have to give them what they came for, as well as a little something extra they didn’t expect.
So, given all that about the structure, here’s the situation I’m actually in: I’m going to start a new series, for which I’m DEFINITELY not doing a crazy new experimental format, and I have to decide whether to make it more like a traditional fantasy story or more like a light novel. (So to speak.)
And I have three data points. The hybrid version (TGT) did very well, the traditional series did relatively poorly, and the one that was most like a light novel performed by far the best.
Now, I too believe that it was mostly because of the structure that people didn’t try EE.
But is it worth the risk to gamble with a traditional fantasy series?
I feel like I’m at a crossroads where one road is covered in fog and vultures while the other is well-paved and raining gold.