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    July - December 2020 ()
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    Willow-o-Wispily

    Firstly, I wanted to thank /u/Will_Wight for writing the blogs on the new writing technique he undertook for Wintersteel. I found the process very fascinating and eased the wait anxiety between books. I agree with his conclusion that perhaps he was over-cutting.

    I do not think that he came to the complete solution to the problem of Uncrowned.

    The problem with Uncrowned was what was missing, not what was cut.

    Uncrowned was only missing two scenes, but those two scenes were deeply unsatisfying blank spots.[Read full post for entire question]

    Will Wight

    First of all, let me say in all sincerity that I appreciate the level of thought and care that you've put both into evaluating these issues and into writing them up. You clearly put consideration into this, and it shows.

    Second, I very much appreciate the constructive spirit in which this is posted. I absolutely take this for the constructive criticism that it is, and I respect that.

    It is because of that respect, in fact--and because you tagged me directly, implying to me that you want my thoughts--that I will give you an honest response.

    More honest a response than I perhaps usually give, though I always try to be as real with you guys as I can.

    Here goes:

    You're putting together a picture with more than half the puzzle pieces missing.

    The lesson learned from Uncrowned should be to add one more step to the editing process.

    I really don't mean any offense, I mean this as a very literal observation, but you don't know what steps are currently in my editing process.

    I know, from your perspective, that it must seem self-evident. A.) There were scenes you felt were missing, therefore B.) the beta readers weren't looking for gaps, because if they had been, they would have made that note and C.) I would have written the scenes. A-B-C.

    That is not at all how it works.

    The beta readers are virtually never looking for scenes to cut. Hilariously enough, Wintersteel is the first time where we've had that as a beta reader step. They're only ever looking for what they feel is missing or broken.

    The notes I get from beta readers overwhelmingly fall into one of three categories. Here they are, from most common to least:

    1.) Things they felt were bad. Out of character, poorly phrased, confusing, whatever.

    2.) Things they felt were missing or that they wanted to see that weren't there.

    3.) Typos and minor sentence-level corrections.

    Since I know you were primarily looking out for #2 on this list, I'll address that one specifically: that's the one where I could always add more. There's no end to it. I always, always, even with Wintersteel, cut that off early.

    We have a couple of weeks after the beta reading phase, during which I'll add whatever scenes I can write in that time. But when I run out of time, that's it. That's the number of scenes you get.

    "But Will, you sterling stallion, why the arbitrary cutoff?" There has to be an arbitrary cutoff. I could keep going on that step for years, but each addition of a scene means more material to read through, and there's no outside force giving me a firm deadline so it has to be arbitrary to some degree.

    I say all this just to illustrate that there's a lot going on under the surface that isn't necessarily evident to the post-mortem analysis of a story.

    Most times, when people are unhappy with an ending, it's because the author did not put in an emotional climax.

    I don't want to put words in your mouth (or keys under your fingers), but I suspect you're talking about the emotional resolution.

    The climax of a story is the point of greatest conflict, and in Uncrowned in particular (this isn't true for all my stories, but it is for this one) the emotional climax and plot climax are the same moment.

    The point of greatest emotional conflict with the highest stakes is between Lindon and Yerin as they clash in the tournament. The resolution is when the fallout of that climax is resolved and we get to see how things turned out for those involved, which (in terms of the emotional arc) occurs at the beginning of Wintersteel.

    So there very much was a climax in Uncrowned. You might hate it with a burning passion, but structurally it is there.

    I do agree, however, with your ultimate point that Wintersteel felt a lot more fleshed-out than Uncrowned, and I'm hoping to learn from that with Bloodline.

    It's harder than it seems, though. There's a lot to juggle in Bloodline. But I'm doing my best!

    July - December 2020 ()
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    PlaceboJesus

    So, Will, you tried some new things in your writing method, how do you feel it worked out for you?

    Will Wight

    I plan on blogging about this soon, maybe this week. I wanted to wait until as many people as possible got to read the book before I commented on the writing process, so now that sales are starting to slow down (relatively speaking), that indicates to me that most fans have had a chance to read Wintersteel and form their opinion on it.

    In short, I feel like it was the most efficiently I’ve ever written a book. I was therefore able to write more in less time without killing myself.

    However, I try to improve my writing process in some way for every book, so this is really just another step in a long iterative process that most likely won’t ever end.

    Also, while I’m pleased with how efficiently I wrote Wintersteel, not all books I write in the future will be this long. For instance, Bloodline probably won’t be. It is (or it should be) a much more focused story, so I don’t need things like two competing primary storylines.

    I feel like the answer I’m supposed to give is “I loved this process so much because it gave the story the room it really needed to breathe, and I felt more free to explore and flesh out the world,” but I didn’t really feel that way.

    I felt paralyzed with fear over what to cut and what to leave in, shipped it off full of dread, received the positive reviews with a massive sigh of relief, and retroactively look over it with a feeling of “Well, I’m going to write the next book in a similar way but tweaked based on what I learned last time, and I hope they like the next one just as much but there’s every chance they won’t.”

    Same as usual!

    July - December 2020 ()
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    UncleObii

    While I immensely enjoyed the ending of WS I never doubted Yerin was going to win the tournament. Not because the stakes were too high to be a serious threat (and I agree! Will did such a good job weaving everything together) but because you know it's Yerin. Will loves her so much that a defeat was unthinkable.

    Will Wight

    Wait, what?

    That’s news to me.

    I understand the “a defeat was unthinkable” part, since there’s only one main character left in the tournament so there’s a greater-than-normal likelihood that they’ll win, but I don’t recall having any extra attachment to Yerin.

    I mean, I’ve been writing her for a long time so I’m attached to her like I am to all my major characters, but in terms of who I personally like writing the most among the main cast she might be in last place.

    Her manner of speaking is still a pain to write, her conflicts and relationship with Lindon mean that I have to write a higher-than-normal number of relationship scenes when she’s around (which are difficult for me), and on a personal level I feel like I’d get along with every other member of the main cast except her.

    So again, while I love Yerin like I love all my main characters, hearing you say that I love her in the context of a comparison between other main characters makes me scratch my head a bit.

    What piqued my curiosity is that he or she seemed to think that Yerin is my favorite character or something, and not only do I not feel that way, I wasn’t sure what gave that impression.

    You could make an argument that Yerin suffered the most of the group, or the least of the group, or anywhere in between. Any of them are valid reads, and I don’t really care about where someone thinks she falls on that spectrum.

    My answer to any of those arguments would most likely be “Sure, you could see it that way.”

    But I don’t “reward” characters because I like them, or make characters I dislike struggle more. That’s what surprised and confused me enough to make the comment.

    Why would you be able to tell which character an author likes or dislikes more based on how difficult their life is? Surely that would mean that most writers write their main characters with a sense of seething hatred.

    July - December 2020 ()
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    OjoGrande

    In the scene prior to Sophara's semi final round, when she is reviewing her prizes she expresses disgust that Ghostwater is a product of Northstrider.

    How the hell could she not have known this?

    Will Wight

    It’s mentioned in Wintersteel that she bought that drop of ghostwater. The Herald she bought it from knew where it came from.

    Footnote: This might have been cut, Will could have forgotten that.
    Sources: Reddit
    July - December 2020 ()
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    ArchonFu

    You described the Dawn Sky Palace as a "tiny pocket world - smaller than some void keys - containing only an opulent home". Are void keys and pocket worlds the same thing?

    Will Wight

    You’re going to have to let me get away with some lax phrasing when I’m casually answering questions. What I meant by a “special void key” was a portable space that can allow people to survive in it instead of the normal void key, which is a portable space that doesn’t allow that.

    July - December 2020 ()
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    OrdinaryOrder

    I felt so bad about the Black Dragon lol Will why would you do that ?

    Will Wight

    Don’t worry, he’s fine.

    He was sent home from the battlefield after having been drained by Lindon, so he missed the big battle afterwards in which he would likely have been killed.

    He goes home and spends time with his family, eventually stabilizing his spirit and living a long and productive life away from the violence he never really cared for anyway.

    Also he weaves delicate wicker baskets and always stays hydrated.

    July - December 2020 ()
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    kcudlow

    All Yerin needs is the house Sophara got to put the team in so she can teleport them to wherever she wants to go. Would that work? It's essentially what Lil Blue does when she's inside Lindon's void key.

    Will Wight

    Unfortunately it can’t work with the outlined rules of spatial travel, or (for instance) Charity would have tucked Lindon inside a special void key before teleporting directly to Sky’s Edge.

    kcudlow

    How does it work for Lil Blue while she's inside Lindon's void key? Is she outside it when he travels with Charity or is she exempt from the rule?

    Will Wight

    Spirits and living humans “weigh” differently, and even among spirits at her state of existence, Little Blue is particularly “light.”

    A regular undeveloped Riverseed would “weigh” virtually nothing.

    July - December 2020 ()
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    Sage of Quotes

    Tim said heaven's glory school jades would die but they have treasures in their halls unless they share the other entrances which seems to generous for SV

    Will Wight

    HG has been into shallow labyrinth before. That’s how they know there are treasures inside. The Unsouled quote is referring to the Fallen Leaf school and (pretty sure) the Nethergate, the biggest and most famous entrance in SV.Yeah, just checked. It’s the Nethergate. That’s in a totally different mountain.

    Wintersteel Release Stream ()
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    Questioner

    If you had the chance to write a short story or novel in another author's universe, which world would you choose?

    Will Wight

    I would choose not to do that.  Because that's very intimidating to me.  I don't feel like I could do a good job.  So it hard for me to... If they are writing in that universe, by all means, they keep doing it.  There was, I think it was Jim Butcher, who said when he found out Brandon Sanderson, it may have been someone else, don't quote me on this, that when he found out Brandon Sanderson was doing Wheel of Time, was like, "Wow, good luck to him.  I would never do that."  That sounds super intimidating.  And yup.  If I had a chance to write in someone else's, like for instance Jim Butcher, since that is who we are talking about, if I had a chance to write a Dresden novel, would I?  No.  No.  Absolutely not.  I love Dresden, love the character, love the novels, I could never do that justice, it's so very much Jim Butcher's voice.  No way I can do it.  I'm just not good enough.  I feel that about pretty much anything I would be passionate enough to write in.  I just couldn't do it justice.  

    Wintersteel Release Stream ()
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    Questioner

    Would you ever consider another media for your stories? Graphic novel, animation, live action? Who would you cast as Urzaia?

    Will Wight

    So, this is going to be heretical to some people, but there is nothing sacred about books to me.  I love books.  I read books.  I got in trouble a lot as a kid for reading too many books.  But, it's stories.  It's all about stories.  So it doesn't matter to me what medium those stories are in.  It's all about the story.  So to me, if it's a video game, if it's a graphic novel, it's a whatever, I am cool with it.  I made that joke recently about Wintersteel being available in aerosol format, but if that was an actual way of consuming stories, I would be inhaling stories all the time.  So, the medium of the story is not important to me.  

    Who would I cast as Urzaia?  Travis Baldree.  Just a striking physical resemblance.

    Wintersteel Release Stream ()
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    Questioner

    What kind of writing schedule do you keep?  Do you keep to a 9-5 or do you brainstorm when inspired?

    Will Wight

    Neither.  I touched on this a little bit earlier, but I don't do everyday 9-5, I just don't do that well.  I don't do that with anything.  I don't really keep a schedule very well.  I just kind of don't.  I guess that's the temporal version of getting lost.  So what I do instead, is I do blocks of time.  I do days, or even weeks at a time, where I just do nothing but write.  And that helps me more.  I can concentrate more easily.

    Wintersteel Release Stream ()
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    Will Wight

    I'm going to talk about Hunter Hunter for a second.  So, some people believe that a hard magic system is inherently better, and a magic system that doesn't have, that is soft, so it doesn't have clear cut rules is inherently worse, and that's just not true.  There are a lot of series with great soft magic systems.  But Hunter Hunter in my opinion has such an elaborate set of rules, that it works best as a hard magic system.  So, when it's following it's own rules, because you have such a cool set of rules, and there are so many awesome things that are possible within it, that while you are working within those constraints, it's the most interesting.  Then when you're not, I'm like, but you had this awesome set of rules.  Use those.  But I also really like

    (Interruption for hat change.  What did Will really like?  We may never know.)

     

    Wintersteel Release Stream ()
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    Questioner

    If Cradle is the "top source" of Abidan recruits, does it give the most recruits, the best recruits, or both?

    Will Wight

    So, Cradle is not the top source of Abidan recruits.  Cradle is the fir.. well, I guess it is technically.  So, it's the one where it's the easiest to ascend.  Right?  So it's the one where the magic system most easily translates to ascending, because if you continue to follow the magic system, you eventually ascend.  Not every magic system has ascension built into it.  This one does.  So that is why Cradle is such a great source of Abidan recruits.

    What I meant to say a minute ago is that it is not the source of the best recruits.  So, people have asked "Are Cradle workers the strongest?"  No they are not.  There are iterations with a higher power level than Cradle.

    Wintersteel Release Stream ()
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    Questioner

    What's next? You have mentioned Traveler's Blade a few times, but are you more excited at the concept of moving on to some new creative adventure?

    Will Wight

    Alright, so me, just a little about me, how I always am, how I always, always, always, am, is I always, always, always,

    (Will debates killing a cow vs. killing pigs. He kills the pigs.  Bacon for everybody!)

    I always, always, always want to move on to the next thing.  Always do.  I really am constantly everyday thinking about what the next thing is I can do.  What's a new idea?  I always have new ideas.  I always have new ideas I'm passionate about.  It changes constantly.  I just really like doing new things.  It's just fun.  I like making up new concepts.  That is the really fun part to me.  So, when people talk about Traveler's Blade, that is fun.  That's fun to me.  I have nothing against doing it.  It's just, it's not as fun as doing something new.  And that's kind of what's hard about sticking with a series as long as I've stuck with Cradle.  While I like Cradle, and I really enjoy writing Cradle, and I don't want to stop Cradle, it is still not a new thing.  So I don't want to say I get bored of it; I don't really.  I come up with new stuff, so I wouldn't keep writing it if I was actually bored.  But I want to write something new, right? I want to do something else.  Stretch myself, challenge myself.  Use new ideas.  It's just fun.

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    Questioner

    What inspired the liquid madra test in Sacred Valley?

    Will Wight

    What inspired it?  Like for me writing it?  Or for the people in universe who came up with it?  For me writing it, I don't know, I want to say it was the water glass test from Hunter Hunter.  Which is, as I mentioned earlier, just a really cool magic system.

    (Bedrock!  But no appearance from the Flintstones.  Sad times.)

    So, I want to say it was the water glass test, but it actually wasn't.  So that's how you test your nan in Hunter Hunter.  So people always assume that is the inspiration, and I wish I could say that it was, because that's a really cool device, but it actually wasn't it.  I was just like, OK, what's a thing that they could do to test this belief that they have?  And s therefore, it had to be formless. then it had to take a certain form.  So I was just like, yeah it would be cool, but I also wanted it to be simple, strait forward, digestible.  The kind of thing you would make up when you didn't really know what you were talking about.  And I was like, yeah.  Water in a bowl.